La Vida de los Otros *****

No miento si digo que hace año y medio por lo menos que se me va apareciendo esta película, y que siempre me ha generado el mismo pensamiento, "La tengo que ver".

Pues hace unos días se me presentó esa ocasión. Una copa, buena compañía, y una más que satisfactoria calidad 720p, hicieron las delicias de los intrigados.

 

Contexto de principios de los 80 en la república democrática alemana, la STASI se dedica al espionaje y veto de todo lo relacionado al socialismo y su posible propagación social. En los primeros minutos nos presentan a Wiesler, un subordinado del alto mando, un personaje cuanto menos enigmático e intrigante, que nos da sensación de control extremo.

 

Dicho personaje recibe ordenes de espionaje a una pareja formada por uno de los escritores socialistas más influyentes, y su pareja, actriz venida a más y del gusto del ministro de cultura, creador de la misión.

Manos a la obra, micros por toda la casa, y gran pulcritud, la película nos sigue mostrando que Wiesler es un tipo raro, con ciertos aires militares y sensación de amor eterno a sus mentores.

 

En cuanto empieza el seguimiento, nace la evolución de uno de los personajes más trabajados que he visto últimamente, certero al principio y ya un más dubitativo Wiesler empieza a ver la luz respecto a sus creencias, a su vida, sin contarnos nada en primera persona, podemos oler todo eso en su rostro.

 

El resto de la película, merece el honor de ser visto, el nudo y el desenlace es un placer para los más perseverantes, un cúmulo de metáforas, de símbolos, de verdades y mentiras, de miradas con y sin sentido, y sobretodo, una sensación de satisfacción que pocas películas me han podido generar.

 

La vida de los otros es algo nuevo (pese a que se estrenó en 2006), no os dejará indiferentes, y consigue aunar todo lo que se pide a una plato de variopintos sabores llamado cine.

 

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  • Imane (miércoles, 26. marzo 2014 11:37)

    What is challenged is the exitnesce of *homicidal gas chambers*, and consquently the numbers of Jewish dead.This isn't completely true. What is challenged is that the Nazis ever intended genocide,
    the systematic extermination of all Jews in Europe, or all Jews everywhere, that this was a concious plan undertaken by the ruling Party of Germany 1933-1945, and that this resulted in the deaths of
    approximately 6 million Jews, with gas chambers as the primary instrument of mass murder. Lined up against all that are a heap of inconvenient facts: many gas chambers are falsely labelled or
    reconstructed; Nuremburg eyewitness evidence also has eyewitness testimony attesting to death by mass steaming, mass drowning, mass electrocution in swimming pools, and many more possibilites still
    more unlikely and in some cases, embarrasing. Standards of evidence and the use of coercion at Nuremburg further pollute the data. While no documents show exitnesce of a Holocaust plan, we do have
    documents which refer to the 'Final Solution' as something which will take place after the war and involve either Madagascar or Palestine. Himmler's notorious Posen speech is often brought forth as
    evidence of the Holocaust, but use of the term 'ausrotten' as 'physically exterminate' will not hold up - the term has been used in a political context as 'root out utterly' in the context of
    competing political parties even in recent German history. The National Socialists prosecuted Amon Goetz, the commandant depicted in Speilberg's famous picture (a Holocaust movie with no gas
    chambers, you will notice; he was not alone. I think there are 150 extant sets of minutes of courts martial of various personnel in camp positions for excesses which were punished quite severely
    (prison guards in any nation being prone to these), and so on. The most powerful evidence agaisnt the Standard Model that I've seen are the large free Jewish populations in Berlin, Frankfurt, and so
    on - all throughout the war. This, combined with the very plausible evidence regarding typhus, namely that gassed people are not hyperemaciated like the photos of the stacked dead we have seen and
    that the Allies had destroyed the entire infrastructure of wartime Germany by aerial bombardment, making shipment of food and medicine in sufficient quantities impossible. This is all perfectly
    consistent with the main challenges to the Exterminationist model I have seen. There are many other anomalies which bring the homicidal intent of the camps into question, too many to list here.
    Interested parties are directed to wait for the release of various historians from German - modern German - prisons to question them on the subject. I would say you can email David Irving on the
    subject, but I think the Austrian court system got him to admit that he never saw any planets moving in his telescope. It would be very funny indeed if Irving were to become the last advocate of the
    "Hitler ordered it and six million were killed in the gas chambers" school of history, but the human story has seen odder moments.

  • halfpricemed.com (jueves, 27. marzo 2014 12:24)

    What is challenged is the existence of *homicidal gas chambers*, and consquently the numbers of Jewish dead.This isn't completely true. What is challenged is that the Nazis ever intended genocide,
    the systematic extermination of all Jews in Europe, or all Jews everywhere, that this was a concious plan undertaken by the ruling Party of Germany 1933-1945, and that this resulted in the deaths of
    approximately 6 million Jews, with gas chambers as the primary instrument of mass murder. Lined up against all that are a heap of inconvenient facts: many gas chambers are falsely labelled or
    reconstructed; Nuremburg eyewitness evidence also has eyewitness testimony attesting to death by mass steaming, mass drowning, mass electrocution in swimming pools, and many more possibilites still
    more unlikely and in some cases, embarrasing. Standards of evidence and the use of coercion at Nuremburg further pollute the data. While no documents show existence of a Holocaust plan, we do have
    documents which refer to the 'Final Solution' as something which will take place after the war and involve either Madagascar or Palestine. Himmler's notorious Posen speech is often brought forth as
    evidence of the Holocaust, but use of the term 'ausrotten' as 'physically exterminate' will not hold up - the term has been used in a political context as 'root out utterly' in the context of
    competing political parties even in recent German history. The National Socialists prosecuted Amon Goetz, the commandant depicted in Speilberg's famous picture (a Holocaust movie with no gas
    chambers, you will notice; he was not alone. I think there are 150 extant sets of minutes of courts martial of various personnel in camp positions for excesses which were punished quite severely
    (prison guards in any nation being prone to these), and so on. The most powerful evidence agaisnt the Standard Model that I've seen are the large free Jewish populations in Berlin, Frankfurt, and so
    on - all throughout the war. This, combined with the very plausible evidence regarding typhus, namely that gassed people are not hyperemaciated like the photos of the stacked dead we have seen and
    that the Allies had destroyed the entire infrastructure of wartime Germany by aerial bombardment, making shipment of food and medicine in sufficient quantities impossible. This is all perfectly
    consistent with the main challenges to the Exterminationist model I have seen. There are many other anomalies which bring the homicidal intent of the

  • clearskinmeds.com (sábado, 29. marzo 2014 21:18)

    "As for Holocaust denial: so all the gas chambers were faked? All those pictures of mountains of corpses? Patton puking? All those people with numbers on their arms?"Incredibly, yes most are "faked"
    -- they are "reconstructions". Or they simply point you to the equivalent of a bathroom or a laundry and tell you "this is a gas chamber where millions were gassed". We might call it the "caption
    effect".Pictures of corpses are not pictures of gassing victims. They are pictures of deceased typhus sufferers. And in any case, they are from the camps in Germany, but no gassings are claimed to
    have taken place in German camps. (Well, they were once claimed to have, but curiously, that claim was dropped, although *why* it was dropped was never really made clear.)"Numbers on their arms"
    doesn't demostrate the existence of gas chambers. No one denies the existence of camp inmates.Dave:"1) If you forcibly take a man away from his home, imprison him, beat him, starve him, make him a
    slave laborer, subject him to exposure, and force him to live in unsanitary conditions -- if you do all this, and he dies of a heart attack during his enslavement as my grandfather did, have you not
    killed him?"Sure, but have you *gassed* him? No. Remember, the claim is that millions of Jews were gassed to death. "2) What of the systematic murdering of Jews by more prosaic means such as rounding
    them up and shooting them? this book by Christopher Browning draws on the testimony of a police battalion of Germans who murdered thousands of Jews this way. Do you deny that this systematic murder
    happened? Does this not count as genocide?"My interest is in the gassings, not summary executions. To what extent the latter occurred I cannot say. To the extent that they did occur, and they
    occurred for no other reason than that the victims selected were Jews, then yes, that would constitute genocide, or at least has the makings of genocide. However, caution is warranted if the only
    evidence for such executions is witness testimony. The gassings claim rests almost entirely on witness testimony, most it of contradictory or impossible and much of it obtained by coercion. Physical,
    documentary, forensic and logistic evidence is virtually non-existent, and what there is is hardly conclusive.To repeat, holocaust revisionists do not claim Jews did not suffer massively during the
    period, nor even that their suffering wasn't unique. What is challenged is the existence of *homicidal gas chambers*, and

  • helioprix.com (lunes, 31. marzo 2014 17:06)

    , there are still Holocaust survivors here in the New York area. If you come out here, I could introduce you to one if you're interested."A "holocaust survivor" should really mean someone who was
    gassed but didn't die, or who, at a minimum, was slated to be gassed, *saw* and can describe, *without contradictions* , a gas chamber (saw it up close), but cheated fate at the last minute. To my
    knowlege there exists no such person.The common definition of "holocaust survivor", on the other hand, is someone who was in the camps and came out alive. But this will not do. No one denies that
    Jews were rounded up and sent to camps. What is denied is that there was any sort of planned, organized effort to exterminate them there, specifically by means of gassing them. No such effort, then,
    despite unquestionable Jewish hardship and suffering, no "holocaust".So, Dave, it's not about whether this person you know claims he survived an effort to exterminate him and his kind by gassing,
    it's about whether he can prove such an effort existed, or at least offer sufficient evidence to suggest it was likely, or even possible. To my mind, the evidence screams "unlikely" and at times
    whistles "impossible".Of course, "everyone" believes, often fanatically, that the evidence is overwhelming that gassing occurred. But then at one time "everyone" believed, just as unquestioningly and
    fanatically, that the sun revolved around the earth, that Jesus rose from the dead, that...you get the picture...until the evidence suggested otherwise. Listen closely and you might hear history
    rhyming. I don't wish to put Steve on the spot here. Calling out the holocaust is not a wise career move and there are bigger fish for Steve to fry at the moment. I might just suggest to him that the
    cause of truth would still be served by allowing my comments to stand.Anyone who wishes to correct my views, ideally by providing me with the key piece/s of evidence they have which they believe
    establishes the truth of the gassings (which of course they possess, right, or else why would they be so adamant?), can email me at danielsosa@auswww.com

  • tipsntraps.com (martes, 01. abril 2014 12:28)

    If it does, than I don't see your point in attempting to deny the existence of gas chambers, or claim that they were used for some purpose other than killing people. Well, we now know that there were
    no Extermination camps on German soil, as even the Simon Weisenthal center confirms, so it has been established in principal that many German internment camps (all the ones on German soil for
    intstance) have been misidentified as death camps for propagandandistic ends.The gas chambers have only a few years of life left in them, and will soon be as one with the tales of lampshades and soap
    made from "Jewish Fat". Katyn Forest, as the Germans told us during war time, was a Russian crime, not a German one. It took forty years for the truth on that to come forward. A more recent mass
    grave in the Ukraine that has been exhumed has now also been properly relabelled as a Soviet atrocity. Since Stalin was our ally, we couldn't exactly come forward regarding all the nasty business his
    Army had been about.Such scholarly interest as there still is in gaining a few more years for the Standard Model is taking a new look at the Einsatzgruppen and the Eastern Front. Next year's movie
    scripts must come from somewhere. It's not that people in the camps didn't die - it's only that your complaint is more properly addressed to Bomber Harris and the Allied Air Command, rather than with
    the Germans. They did everything possible to keep their internees alive: Anne Frank - the most famous 'victim' of the Holocaust - died of typhus in an infirmary, recieving medical care. How does this
    fit in with the model of a systematic, planned extermination?

  • himasif.com (viernes, 04. abril 2014 21:23)

    Daniel:"My interest is in the gassings, not summary executions. To what extent the latter occurred I cannot say..."You may not be interested in, or be able to say how many men, women, and children
    were shot and thrown into ditches by the Nazis because they were Jews, but historians have estimated the number at 1.4 million. These murders were carried out by units such as Reserve Police
    Battalion 101 specifically organized for this purpose. Do you challenge the forensic evidence of this in the thousands of mass graves that have been unearthed, or claim this was somehow
    "unintentional"? If not, then you concede that there was a Nazi campaign of genocide against the Jews, whatever your claims about the gas chambers. "What is challenged is the existence of *homicidal
    gas chambers*, and consquently the numbers of Jewish dead."Leaving aside the gas chambers for a moment, how many Jews do you suppose died in the camps due to the beatings, starvation, exposure and
    other torments they were subjected to by the Nazis? You have already conceded that these victims were effectively killed by the Nazis. So how many non-gas chamber deaths do you suppose there were in
    the concentration camps? Now, adding that number of dead to the number shot and buried in mass graves, does this rise to the level of genocide yet in your mind?If it does, than I don't see your point
    in attempting to deny the existence of gas chambers, or claim that they were used for some purpose other than killing people. Dave

  • himasif.com (lunes, 07. abril 2014 16:48)

    Daniel,The Holocaust survivor I had in mind to introduce you to wrote a book about his experiences. You can order it . He was a friend of my late father, who was also a survivor (of the Warsaw Ghetto
    and two concentration camps).Obviously, neither he nor my father were gassed, as they survived their experiences in the camps (though, in both cases, they were the only members of their families to
    do so). By your logic, the fact that both survived means there was no genocide. Also by your logic, the "question" of the existence and use of gas chambers (a question only to you and a handful of
    revisionists) determines whether there was systematic attempt by the Nazis to murder Jews. Two questions for you:1) If you forcibly take a man away from his home, imprison him, beat him, starve him,
    make him a slave laborer, subject him to exposure, and force him to live in unsanitary conditions -- if you do all this, and he dies of a heart attack during his enslavement as my grandfather did,
    have you not killed him?2) What of the systematic murdering of Jews by more prosaic means such as rounding them up and shooting them? by Christopher Browning draws on the testimony of a police
    battalion of Germans who murdered thousands of Jews this way. Do you deny that this systematic murder happened? Does this not count as genocide?Dave

  • dogblogqatar.com (jueves, 10. abril 2014 17:20)

    Just about all the above commenters have some good insights. Among them: 1. The Nazis did indeed have the style and panache required for cinematic villians-something the rather drab Stalinists
    lacked, 2. what we are experiencing in the West today is a variety of neo-Stalinism in the form of "Political Correctness"[a term with origins in the Marxist-leninst left]and the Multicult-so any
    expose of life under Communism reveals too many uncomfortable parallels to the present state of affairs. And to think, people still wonder why the congitive elite refuses to think about IQ/race. No
    one wants to be connected with Nazi crap. If people like Irving, Duke, etc threw in the towel, the public would be much more inclined to listen to IQ realism, and writers like Steve would be get the
    attention they deserve, rather than having to play second fiddle to bores like Gladwell and Levitt-anonymous 2/19/2007 1:46 PM The Nazis, KKK and similar types will never disappear because various
    govt agencies, the ADL and SPLC will make sure of it. It is their bread-and-butter. Recall the recent scandal in Germany when the Federal Court refused to ban the NPD precisely becuase so many state
    intelligence agents were involved in the leadership of the party. In the US I am convinced (on an instinctive level) that none of the Nazi and Klan outfits could muster a minion without their
    complements of govt and ADL/SPLC informers.

  • dogblogqatar.com (domingo, 13. abril 2014 14:27)

    Mr. Kabala,What's interesting is how you've failed to notice that there exists no Iron Curtain around the history of the Soviet gulags: no pejorative name for those who question the Gulag narrative,
    no prison sentences for those who beg for the hard evidence, no pathetic assertion that its survivors deserve protection from historical inquiry. The gulag history is open to all to study, question,
    and refute. In this, it is like all history -- except the one that you believe deserves a level of totalitarian protection common only to big lies. Holocaust denial is a term invented by the
    Holocaust Industry. What it describes is as fictional as the fiction of the gas chambers. No concentration camp scholar doubts that hundreds of thousands of internees perished; there is no denial of
    great suffering, injustice, and death, thus, there is no denial. What the Holocaust Industry demands from the rest of the world is that it accept its narrative without question, accept the existence
    of gas chambers for which there exists no evidence, accept the never-ending reparations bill for it all, and imprison anyone who questions its version of history. These demands are unprecedented in
    academic inquiry and non-existent in human relationships. Scholars do not accept dogma, and people do not surrender their innate skepticism, yet that is exactly what, under threat of ruin and loss of
    liberty, international jewry demands of us all. And you defend it?

  • Charles (miércoles, 26. octubre 2016 12:29)

    Thanks for the sensible critique. Me &amp my neighbor were just preparing to do a little research about this. We got a grab a book from our area library but I think I learned more clear from this post. I am very glad to see such wonderful info being shared freely out there.

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